For those of you who watch this. You need to find out more about your Economic Slavery. See Michael Moores article www.alternet.org “The $700 bailout bill is being driven by fear not fact. This is too much money, in too short of time, going to too few people, while too many questions remain unanswered. Why aren’t we having hearingsWhy aren’t we considering any other alternatives other than giving $700 billion to Wall Street? Why aren’t we passing new laws to stop the speculation which triggered this? Why aren’t we putting up new regulatory structures to protect the investors? Why aren’t we directly helping homeowners with their debt burdens? Why aren’t we helping American families faced with bankruptcy? Isn’t time for fundamental change to our debt-based monetary system so we can free ourselves from the manipulation of the Federal Reserve and the banks? Is this the US Congress or the Board of Directors of Goldman Sachs?” Rep. Dennis Kucinich
#1 by dayspeace on 11/28/2011 - 9:20 PM
this is a very interesting point of view. I really like to hear more about it.
#2 by bryncomeaux on 11/28/2011 - 9:52 PM
@InfiniteMushroom in breal life you cant really store upvalue of labor. i do something and then its done. i cant do something and then save the action for some other time. If i pretend with the “fetish” of cash then im in a fantasy world where all sorts of illogic become possiabe. Eventually the dream becomes a nightmare and its time to wake up. The whole point is that it can’t be saved. or manipulated, stolen taxed or lost to nature.
#3 by anatureperson on 11/28/2011 - 10:17 PM
Marshal law means closing the courts; in other words, if the courts are not closed, it is not marshal law. Call it something else, but is not marshal law. Marshall law is a drastic measure, which is why it has never, ever, been implemented in the truest sense of the word. They may call their control mechanisms whatever they like, but if it does not include shutting down the courts, it is not marshal law.
#4 by pjamesbda on 11/28/2011 - 10:52 PM
This is an excellent post. Time Banking might be the answer to fill that gap between Barter, and hands on food growth. We still want our teeth fixed and we may need medical attention. Time Banking is easy to set up, and has worked well in certain areas for decades:
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#5 by InfiniteMushroom on 11/28/2011 - 11:48 PM
@angelablass The main trouble with barter it is impossible to store up labor value in a medium of exchange. You have to use what you have on hand to get what you need. You may have a house full of stuff or certain talents and still be unable to trade!
Gold, silver, or specie currency whose value is guaranteed by law, is why money developed. The problem with money is the government and the banks. Ancient China’s currency lasted for centuries because it was guaranteed by the death penalty!
#6 by Tioteking on 11/29/2011 - 12:27 AM
@minstral2 Sure!!!! look at the RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY promoted by the ZEITGEIST movement…fastest growing global movement on history!!!..Also as a transition solution Ecovillages are a great option.
Just an opinion……(based in tons of research)..
Saludos!!
#7 by kc1964kc on 11/29/2011 - 1:23 AM
HD Thoreau and Thomas Paine are proud….great discussions. Now act.
#8 by LamokaGhost on 11/29/2011 - 2:01 AM
@minstral2 I fully agree with your comment. I hope that you and I are not left here to do the work of feeding all of our brothers and sisters that do not know how to live in the manner of which you are speaking. More of our people should learn a little something to add to everyone in our struggle to stay alive This day will come!
#9 by kingofthepaupers on 11/29/2011 - 2:56 AM
Jct: Great video explaning the problem and I hope Sunny appreciates why I named my political party the Abolitionist Party (here to finish the job the metal chain Abolitionists didn’t see by abolishing the invisible usury debt chains) and how the the UNILETS worldwide timebank is the computer program to forgive us our debts.
#10 by angelablass on 11/29/2011 - 3:48 AM
Bring back the bartering system. This will literally kill the monetary system & we will still b able to feed ourselves. Create permaculture societies right here in America. We hav all the resources we need, if we don’t have to pay for it.
#11 by angelablass on 11/29/2011 - 4:42 AM
@minstral2 Yes, I totally agree. We need to bring back the barter system & as for our food supply, well hello, permaculture. These simple systems have worked way before the monetary system came around.
#12 by hablerz on 11/29/2011 - 5:31 AM
We are guardians of our own slavery to the monetary system, we could stop being slaves by being as self sufficient as possible even if it means a small windowbox. Also we need to stop consuming pointless Chinese crap we don’t need.
#13 by fireeyedb0y on 11/29/2011 - 5:45 AM
Fair points about fear. Fear is evolutionary understandable though. Having irrational fears is saver than not having rational (note the missing ‘ir’) fears. Irrational fears don’t necessarily kill you. Not having rational fears, could kill you in an instance though. I think our brains are not fine-tuned enough to distinguish between what is irrational or rational, so I guess it behaves on the adage: rather save than sorry.
#14 by Brutal666MAN on 11/29/2011 - 6:08 AM
Graham Hancock
#15 by MsMihailescu on 11/29/2011 - 6:50 AM
Abolish the private jewish federal reserve.Since 1913 they have destroy the country.They have create wars,depressions and brought poverty to America,their final goal in total destruction.
Read this book for free on internet to understand all the problem America is facing.
Who Is Esau-Edom…Who Is Esau-Edom..
#16 by Craigfromsunderland on 11/29/2011 - 7:17 AM
The banking system creates “money” out of thin air by creating debt. Take the power back. Check out postivemoney and the moneyreformparty in the UK and Stephen Zarlenga’s monetary reform institute in the USA. We need to disallow private bankers from issuing our money supply.
#17 by bringtheboyshome on 11/29/2011 - 7:59 AM
@minstral2 I agree, I have started looking at this factor, all of my stress and spirtual sickness are tied back to living a monetary lifestyle. I love animals, nature, I’ve been sucked into the vortex. I am willing and open to exploring eco villages and another way of living. Now I hope that I am able to follow my dream and actually live it and not let fear drag me back down.
#18 by neuroleptika on 11/29/2011 - 8:02 AM
The last time I saw a terrorist, he was wearing a police uniform and harrassing me and my friends…
#19 by Swedishcarrina on 11/29/2011 - 8:47 AM
This man is so right on!!!
#20 by ColdBoi on 11/29/2011 - 9:04 AM
@druwin Do you have the rest of this documentary uploaded?
#21 by lmollot on 11/29/2011 - 9:40 AM
TEACHERS STOLE NATIVE CHILDRENS LANDS
#22 by putointaft on 11/29/2011 - 10:37 AM
I agree,keep up the good work.
#23 by BluChimera on 11/29/2011 - 11:06 AM
@minstral2 That is assuming earth will be able to give to us anymore, considering how we have been poisoning it. Most recent case in point being the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. That’s just a small example of the damage we have been doing. Granted it’s a vast beautiful planet with an ability to heal, but we can only go so far in damaging that which sustains us.
#24 by skept1c615 on 11/29/2011 - 11:31 AM
druwin…. I am so GLAD I found your channel!!! Thank you!!! Venus Project! Resource Based Economy!
#25 by adissenter2 on 11/29/2011 - 12:22 PM
@Venumusone ..born on the rez and lived near it for the most of my life, most Indians are just as dependent as the rest of all the debt slaves .. sovereignty has be stripped from all of us.. peaceful revolution! search for schaeffer cox the solution
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